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#479135 03/10/06 08:22 AM
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just curious to see who everyone uses for Distributors, ADI is the big one around here but can be a little pricy, wanted to know what everyone else thinks


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Target Distrib. in Maryland is carrying alot of security stuff.

Ask for Burt......

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ADI and SES.
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We use ADI with good results.


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#479139 03/10/06 01:56 PM
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ADI, Target Dist. and Systems Depot here in Georgia.Target has better pricing on their GE products than ADI.

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We have ADI here, I don't use them. Alarmax is very good, they sell a good deal of voice/data stuff which is what I install. There is also a company, Security Products that is located here in Cleveland. I only know them by name, never dealt with them.


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#479141 03/10/06 02:35 PM
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I actually just started dealing with taget and so far so good, Jeff I have heard good things about alarm max I may have to give them a shot...


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#479142 03/10/06 04:36 PM
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I would definitely give Alarmax a shot. They are always very helpful and keep a good stock of products. Their pricing on wire and cable is pretty good here.


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#479143 03/11/06 01:54 AM
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ADI has always been good to us, when they ship out of Atlanta we get the shipments next day without paying for next day,plus they pay freight. Been doing business with them for years, and do not recall getting an incorrect shipment, or late delivery. No hassle return policy, don't even have to call for an RA,Fill out a short form, drop it in a box and forget it. Their products group guys are always helpful when you get in over your head, tell them what you are trying to do and they fix ya a quote for everything you need down to power supplies, wire and bnc connectors. We have a local company that stocks DSC and devices that we use when we need something that day, but we try and stay with ADI. Have been known to order stuff from Sprint North Supply, but they don't seem to want to talk to us anymore. They used to be our main supplier for everything and were real helpful, now it is like pulling teeth just to try and talk to somebody. Beats all I ever saw, try and find a phone number to call them on their website. If you don't order over the website they don't want ya. Never heard of Alarmmax, will have to check them out too.

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I have to agree I like ADI, but I am always looking for a second quality vendor. Just found out their is an alarm max about 15 minutes from my ADI branch so I definitely check them out.


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#479145 03/11/06 12:06 PM
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I guess ADI is the big name in security, I have called them and they won't talk to me cause I don't have an account (remember im still a student).


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#479146 03/11/06 01:10 PM
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ADI is real strict about having an account, they used to have some house accounts you could set up depending on the branch, but I think they did away with that as well


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Just received a catalog today from a vendor I never heard of.
Eastern Distributing
New york, New England and Jersey
with new branches in santa Ana & San Dimas, CA.
They seem to have a full line and their prices don't look to bad.
www.easterndistributing.com
Anybody ever hear of them or use them?
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never heard of them. I get one of the security systems magazines so I try to keep up with everything.
I can understand why ADI does that, it does protect their customers in a way.


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#479149 03/23/06 01:35 PM
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I've been using AFY Security Distributors in Bensalem, PA for about 6 years now. If you're into DSC systems, they are very good.


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#479150 03/23/06 01:45 PM
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ADI is a little pricey ,but service is really prompt and efficient. cool

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You have Tri-Ed in the U.S. as well, wouldn't they be cheaper for the DSC products? They are supposed to have the exclusive.

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I am mainly looking for honeywell ademco as far as panels, I think ADI has that section tied up preaty well.


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#479153 03/24/06 09:54 AM
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Sorry anthonyh, I was responding to Kyawa about the DSC product.

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no prob, I actually never used a DSC panel just napco and ademco, how are they? which do you perfer?


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#479155 03/26/06 04:40 AM
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I do prefer the DSC, mainly because it is so popular here in Canada. It was originally made here and it seemed to really take off. I can program them in my sleep - central station communications and LCD keypad labels included.

Their "Power Series" line that they introduced back about 10 years ago was a good move. Started with the 832 unit (8 on board zones, expandable to 32) with 2 true partitions. Last few years they brought out the 864 (expandable to 64 zones) and 8 partitions. All keypads, expanders, etc. are compatible with the full line.

There was a bit of a shakedown a few years ago. The parent company "Tyco Electronics" who owns "ADT Security" bought out the distributor "Tri-ED". As a result, ADT started using DSC (previously they were famous for using their "Focus" panel, which I believe was a custom Ademco unit. They also were big on the Napco Gemini units). All the little dealers that were using DSC were upset because they were competing against ADT who I am sure were getting a better price on the panels, not to mention the fact that the little guy was supporting Tyco, thus ADT.

A lot of tried and true DSC dealers started looking at other brands now. Burtek that was strugling with their Paradox line picked up quite a few and some went to Ademco. Then ADI was bought out by Honeywell, which also does security, and now the whole upset competing dealer thing started again.

I don't think Tri-Ed is owned by Tyco anymore (that's what I've heard) so some have switched back, but ADT is still using DSC.

Another good thing with DSC, they really nailed the lightening protection issue with their "power series" lines. Their previous models as well as some of the other manufacturers might as well have had a lightening rod directly attached to their circuit boards. I have only replaced a couple of DSC panels due to lightening, and it was because of a direct strike (the alarm was the minor item compared to the damage it did to the rest of the place).

They have some nice features, they were one of the first panels that had a one touch arming for stay mode (perimeter) and away mode (full arm). They came out with a software version that you could toggle from stay to away mode without having to disarm and it reactivates the exit delay. Their keypad will show you what zone is in alarm while the system is still armed (great for bedroom keypads), others you have to disarm first to see the alarm memory (kind of defeats the purpose). They have a nice looking programmable HVAC thermostat that works with their panels. When you arm you security on leaving, it can automatically set back the temperature and return it when you disarm. Also will show you the temp. on your keypads. They have an intercom/door chime that matches and mounts up against the keypads. It can anounce alarm status over the intercom. Just some of the features that come to mind.

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While I have encoutered relativly few DSC's here, and only installed a handfull, I can vouch for the nice features and the Lighting protection of the DSC's. They seem to really think about the end user when it comes to functionality and ease of use. They hold up really well even here in Florida. About the only thing I disliked about the DSC's I installed were the tiny screw terminal but I have only had exposure to the smaller panels like the 1550's so I can't speak for the newer stuff.

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I Actually put a napco gemini in my first house, It was the first panel I ever put in, it worked real well, programming was not bad at all using the alpa keypad. I have been using the honeywell admeco vista series, mainly becasue they are fairly easy to use and I can program them remotley usingtheir compass software. I think ADT was using a vista 20p with custom software, selling it under the "safe watch" name, I could be wrong on that.


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My house originally had a Napco Magnum Alert 800 (30 years old). We got a new alarm from Guardian and they put in a Napco Gemini. No complaints whatsoever. I saw a demo of Paradox equipment a few months back at Famous Telephone.
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I also did not know that ADI was owned by Honeywell.


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I also did not know that ADI was owned by Honeywell.
Same here, explains a lot though


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Yes, that was a big shake down a few years ago. There was alot of upset dealers. That is why Napco pulled out of ADI about 2 years ago, they weren't happy with the competing dealers arrangement.

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Interesting...according to a press release on Napco's site, ADI stands for Ademco Distributors Inc.


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I remeber reading that about napco but was not sure what the reason was behind it. Now I know.


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DCS is good stuff and I bought exclusively from AFY because they have two great guys (Bernie and Larry). Their prices were also better than anywhere I could buy, including online.

When Tyco bought DSC, as well as the other consolidation, I got out of the alarm business. In my state (MD), insurance premiums for alarm installers start at $10k because homeowners are suing installers when they get robbed EVEN IF THEY DON'T SET THEIR ALARM. The insurance isn't for damages but for legal defense. I never had any problems but it just wasn't worth it anymore.


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that seems to be the case with a lot of people, I no longer install, well besides my own and my families stuff. When licensing came around I had no proof of my time or experience, and the insurance premiums are to high to do this as a part time thing, so I basically dropped out as well.


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Anthony,

Are you a tech for ATT?


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Kyawa,
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