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Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452759 09/08/09 09:47 AM
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brianl703 Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 149 I knew what ethernet was back ...	The way I am talking about is shown on the left side.

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Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452760 09/08/09 09:59 AM
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hbiss Member Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 12,344 Likes: 3 New York	Actually both ways make you untwist about the same amount. With the second "CAT5e way" that inch doesn't give you much to grab onto with your fingers to put it in the clip. Only difference is that you want to maintain the jacket strip right up to the fanning strip and twists right up to the clips. That right there is a PITA and together with alternating the cuts is the reason 66 blocks aren't used much for data. -Hal CALIFORNIA PROPOSITION 65 WARNING: Some comments made by me are known to the State of California to cause irreversible brain damage and serious mental disorders leading to confinement.

Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452761 09/08/09 10:21 AM
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brianl703 Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 149 I knew what ethernet was back ...	The average cat5e cable is going to require you to undo about 6 more twists between the inner 66 clips and the comb. That's not insignificant, and is part of the reason that I find the cat5e way faster.

Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452762 09/08/09 12:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,381 Likes: 13 Fayetteville, NC EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire
EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,381 Likes: 13 Fayetteville, NC	Well, not really. The proper way to terminate CAT4 and up on a 66 block is to bring the whole pair through the same hole in the fanning strip. Then, the tip conductor turns up into the upper clip for the pair and the ring conductor turns down to the lower clip. The untwisted cable pair length is less than 1/4", well within specs. Ed Vaughn, MBSWWYPBX

Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452763 09/08/09 02:37 PM
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jeffmoss26 Member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,424 Likes: 1 Beachwood	Cat 4? do you mean Cat 5? :shrug: Jeff Moss Moss Communications Computer Repair-Networking-Cabling MBSWWYPBX, JGAE

Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452764 09/08/09 02:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,381 Likes: 13 Fayetteville, NC EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire
EV607797 Moderator-Vertical, Vodavi, 1A2, Outside Wire Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 15,381 Likes: 13 Fayetteville, NC	No, I meant CAT4. It all started as CAT1, 2, 3 and 4. The "professionals" have deemed most of them obsolete. Ed Vaughn, MBSWWYPBX

Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452765 09/08/09 03:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,424 Likes: 1 Beachwood jeffmoss26 Member
jeffmoss26 Member Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 9,424 Likes: 1 Beachwood	Gotcha...I have never actually seen Cat 4... Jeff Moss Moss Communications Computer Repair-Networking-Cabling MBSWWYPBX, JGAE

Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452766 09/08/09 03:06 PM
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KLD Member Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 5,722 KS	Still got a partial box....had a 20 year tech see the box and thought it was miss marked.... Ken ---------

Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452767 09/08/09 03:06 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 149 I knew what ethernet was back ... brianl703 Member
brianl703 Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 149 I knew what ethernet was back ...	Quote Originally posted by EV607797: Well, not really. The proper way to terminate CAT4 and up on a 66 block is to bring the whole pair through the same hole in the fanning strip. I find that quicker and easier than doing it the wrong way.

Re: cat 3 or cat 6 #452768 09/08/09 03:14 PM
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brianl703 Member Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 149 I knew what ethernet was back ...	Quote Originally posted by EV607797: No, I meant CAT4. It all started as CAT1, 2, 3 and 4. The "professionals" have deemed most of them obsolete. There never actually was any specification for CAT1 that I could find, it's performance was "unspecified", apparently a catch-all category for cable that had not otherwise been classified, such as quad, AT&T DIW, thermostat wire, zip cord, etc. There were (and still are) some cable manufacturers making cable they call CAT1. I am unsure what the point of this cable is..why they would make it or why anyone would buy it. What I have seen of it (there is some in my mom's house--it's made by Essex and says CAT1 right on the jacket), it is at least twisted pair...and will work for 10BaseT, at least for short runs.

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