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#449442 11/25/08 11:19 AM
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For better or worse, the way I've done it: I run t...Question: doesn't putting at least all of the phone lines in numerical order make it easier to make the jumps on a 110 block when using 25-50-100 pair cable?
It'll take you more time than it's worth. What are you going to do the next time a line gets added....move all subsequent numbers down one pin plus their X-Connects? Ridiculous!

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If for whatever reason, you are pulling large quantities of CAT5E for voice, then using 110 blocks is the only way unless you want to spend a lot of time untwisting cables.

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.......and here we go again....why Cat 5 or above for voice so why 110? Please see the referenced thread.

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Did I hear someone mention CAT5 for voice? mad

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Oh no, not even 10 posts in and I'm about to get hammered! Good thing you guys are experts in all things phone related and not masons.

Thanks for the link, Ken. I'll take a more thorough look through it later tonight. I think the primary reason we use 110 blocks for voice is space constraints, which are always a concern.

Dave: in hotels anyway, added phone lines are rare above the 1st floor - most, if not all, of the space is for guest rooms. We run extra wire to places that often require future upgrades, such as the front desk, GM's office, conference rooms and so on. Any lines added last minute or after the fact would go where there is space for them.

bfdatacom and Ken: yeah, we do pull cat5e for voice. Why, I have no idea - maybe it's for "future-proofing", maybe the boss man gets a great deal on it. Cat5e seems overkill to me, but at this point it's his call, not mine.

Hal: I swear I didn't mention cat5e for voice. I swear I didn't mention cat5e for voice... eek

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Fletch....you are catching on....wanna go get Hal a #6 wire stretcher? :shrug:


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Good thing you guys are experts in all things phone related and not masons.

Hey, we don't do such a bad job with concrete. The last IT "profesional" who came around here insisting that CAT5 should always be used for voice- well lets just say now part of something bigger.

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Fletch....you are catching on....wanna go get Hal a #6 wire stretcher? :shrug:
Sure. I think it's in my toolbox right next to my left-handed conduit reamer.

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Good thing you guys are experts in all things phone related and not masons.

Hey, we don't do such a bad job with concrete. The last IT "profesional" who came around here insisting that CAT5 should always be used for voice- well lets just say now part of something bigger.

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I'd rather not be part of a building or give new meaning to "keystone Jack". I'm no IT pro: aren't all of those guys are on the geek squad at Best Buy?

I meant what I wrote about many of you being experts. Many of the pictures of the work done by forum members are really quite spectacular in my eyes. I found this place numerous times by asking questions on search engines.

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Originally posted by hbiss:
Good thing you guys are experts in all things phone related and not masons.

Hey, we don't do such a bad job with concrete. The last IT "profesional" who came around here insisting that CAT5 should always be used for voice- well lets just say now part of something bigger.

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