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The way we currently do it is fast, run all cables, don't worry about labeling cables while running. Terminate at jacks and at backboard. Then tone, test and label like Skip said, two guys with walkie talkies. We then fill out a floor plan and staple it to the back board.

But, sometimes after we are done the customer says 'why aren't the jacks in order?' We only don't do it because the way I know how is too consuming for the time that we have. So the fastest way to do it is to label both ends as you go huh? Thanks for the info.

I terminate all jacks and then tone the cables as I punch down at 66 block and patch panel. I am to picky to not have the jacks and panel in order even if it will be disorganized when more are installed. I work alone so I have a voice tagger that will tone 8 lines or the little plugs that will do 20 at a time.

bfdatacom I would like to know more about the data lights.

I use the data lite also for data ,the kit I have has 100 lights you plug in the patch panel and two remotes with switches you reverse polarity on the remote so one will light the light green the other red . a lot faster and sure than toning

obviously its back to the tone and probe for 66 blocks

Skip, don't you have to have the cables already terminated at both ends to use it? Not going to help if you have your jacks in order and then do the patch panel.

-Hal

yes we terminate both ends and then label so two data drops in the same room (or even the same faceplate)will have non sequential numbers

same with voice

so one face plate could be
V7 V 12
D9 D14

I've done it both ways...trying to label the print and go in order. Inevitably I find that I missed something or need to add a jack later on and it gets messed up. What I like to do is keep the patch panel going in order and not worry as much about the workstation jacks.

I haven't found it to be a problem to label everything as I go. I use the small labels from 3m that you write on with a sharpie and the clear part wraps back over the wire and your writing so it doesn't smear. Seems to be easier for us if it's all in order no messing with walkie talkies or toners just whoever is on the remote end of the tester sees pass and plugs into the next one in order. I think for the most part it's personal preference, I did work with some guys who labled nothing yet had four people toning at the same time, reminded me of something to do with a monkey and a football. But that's how they did things.

We always marked up a floor plan and then labeled and pulled the cables. But then again - the smallest job I've worked on in the last 30 years was probably 100 locations on a floor. Some places had 300-400 on a floor. I think it's a lot easier on a larger job to have it all laid out. But if anyone has experience to the contrary - please let me know.

I've never used a Datalite or other similar unit. Toner & Wand for the last 35 years, Grey buzzer and rubber butt set before that.

We always test with a PentaScanner/Fluke/whatever. The customer almost always wants to see the results.

Sam

Mark as I go and label in order. I keep the data and the voice in different bundles and on large jobs pull in zones so not so much to sort through. It's worked well for me. As far as additions after the job is done on voice I just start an "A" block so to keep numbering consistent if there is already a 14 in the room floor whatever and 15 is in a different area it becomes 15A. Data it just has to become whatever the next number on the patch panel is I suppose I could have an A panel also, but that could get a little messy. Anyhow it's hard to change old habits.