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A piece of 400 pair PE89 cable is on the way. That will surely scare anyone away from the big stuff.
no , they will just figure with VOIP they can do the same thing on 4 pair


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Well, hopefully the pictures from the good/bad work thread's will shine the light on the idea that there's more then just plugging a patch cable in. It cant hurt to attempt to explain why proper wiring is important. Hopefully the pictures and everything else will make it more clear why it is. smile

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Originally posted by EV607797:
A piece of 400 pair PE89 cable is on the way. That will surely scare anyone away from the big stuff.
man, i hate those... between slicing fingers open on the shield and getting that gummy crap all over my hands & tools, i've got to be in a good mood to work on that stuff.


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Well the good news is that I dont have to be too gentle with it, since it's not going to really do anything smile

The bad news is it's PE89. Should be effective either way.

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Maybe you can convince them that ALL cable is that way, and if what they are using isn't, it's inferior! The ickypic and shield cut danger should 'scare them straight' as the 'cons' say. (Don't ask) John C. (Not Garand)


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Well, once I get the presentation up and done i'll share it so you all can look at it and give me feedback on how good and/or bad it is smile

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Just score the sheath and shield, bend back and forth to break and pull it off, should be no problem on that short of length. I use a hook bill Stanley blade to slit the sheath and shield at the same time on longer lengths, I've yet to cut myself. When pealing off the sheath and shield wear gloves.

Hot soapy water to clean the icky pick or alcohol, not the drinking kind. laugh


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....Hot soapy water to clean the icky pick or alcohol, not the drinking kind. laugh
Yeah, that "other" kind is used by splicers & cable repairmen up here to keep their innards warm during the winter months.


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Hot soapy water to clean the icky pick or alcohol, not the drinking kind. laugh
speaking for all the Irish as we're known to do, i would never dream of wasting ethyl alcohol on anything but my proud, green liver. =)


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The presentation went great. It was funny with that cable splayed open. I told them all when I brought it out to "Not touch this cable, it is flooded with gel and will stick to everything". Listened to them complain about sticky fingers for hours laugh

BTW, they all got a kick out of the technical terms, I.E. MBSWWYPBX errors smile

Thanks all for the help.

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