atcomsystems.ca/forum Forums General General Telephone & Systems Information Why NOT to buy an IP system

Kind of what I thought......

Not completely down on IP But:


Some unscrupulous dealers rip off customers with BS like $10K Paging Servers! (At a school bus barn,)
Obviously Paging is much better with a SERVER.

IMHO That is not a good argument for or against IP systems brokeda.
There are unscrupulous dealers everywhere selling every product, service and system you could imagine.
TekMason

Actually, having to add a server to actually page IS..when that is an accepted feature of a modern phone system.

The problem with IP isn't IP. It's logic. Anyone that has taken even a rudementary class in logic 101 can look at a schematic and see what extra steps are needed to get VOIP or actually, the more PROPER term should be TOIP, to work properly and perform at a level that is acceptable for internal dial tone. Understand I come from the computer side of the house (computer science) so I can see some of the advantages of TOIP..but the extra work to make it happen makes almost little of no sense for internal dial tone.

It reminds me of the story of the millions of dollars and engineering NASA spent on making a pen that could would work in near zero g. The Russian response....use a pencil.

That's a good one.

The Russians just used a pencil instead of a zero-gravity pen maybe, but they didn't make it to the moon, did they? And without the space pen, where would Seinfeld be?

Interesting that you bring up the Russion pencil and American pen in space story. It is a myth. The Fisher Pen Company developed the Space Pen in the mid-1960s. They did this on their own, without prompting by NASA and without and government money. In addition, he Russians abandoned special pencils and switched over to pressurized space pens in 1969.

There were very good reasons to use the more expensive space pens (~$4) on space missions. Because of the danger that a broken-off pencil tip poses in zero gravity and the flammable nature of the wood present in pencils a better solution was needed.

There are some good reasons that make a solid business cases to use IP system.
I don't think using a $10k server to add paging is one of those though.

TekMason

LOL, hook line and sinker. I quoted that myth knowing that someone would try and dismiss what it was saying by using Wiki or other site. I also looked in up and I assume you used cut and paste because it looks verbatim. As a side note you should always link source sites when and IF you do that as a courtesy. BTW it did still cost 2 million..for a pen..and that was in dollars in THAT day and age.

I agree 10k for a paging server seems quite a lot and you will run into people overcharging..but it happens and customers should price check. I find that Nationals do this as a matter of business because they have them.

I wonder what would happen if that pen broke and ink started going everywhere?

Hey, you didn't cite the source of the myth that you quoted Coral. LOL

I hazard to guess that a broken space pen would be...hazardous to the mission. You can quote me on that

BTW Do you still use vinyl records and VCR tapes as opposed to IPods, MP3s, CDs and DVDs?

TekMason

Interesting timing: Space Pen episode on TBS Seinfeld tonight.