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ntnsnoopy
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From: Mission Viejo, Ca USA
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posted September 14, 2004 11:34     Click Here to See the Profile for ntnsnoopy   Click Here to Email ntnsnoopy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have a website or know of any material that would show how to use a Telephone Butt Set?

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justbill
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posted September 14, 2004 11:44     Click Here to See the Profile for justbill   Click Here to Email justbill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Only thing I would know of is the instructions that come with it. What is it you want to know? There are different styles that do different things.
Bill

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ntnsnoopy
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posted September 14, 2004 13:35     Click Here to See the Profile for ntnsnoopy   Click Here to Email ntnsnoopy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I guess my first question should be just what functions can this thing do. But I'll start with what do the STO, PSE, RCL and LNR buttons do?

Another would be can I attach the clips straight to the punch block to find an available line?

And yes, I am very much a novice with phones.

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ttech
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posted September 14, 2004 13:40     Click Here to See the Profile for ttech   Click Here to Email ttech     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
store
pause
recall (flash)
Last number Redial

harris manuals are here:

http://www.networksupport.harris.com/support/documents.html#ptetmanual

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ntnsnoopy
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posted September 14, 2004 13:41     Click Here to See the Profile for ntnsnoopy   Click Here to Email ntnsnoopy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you! Thank you!

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ntnsnoopy
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posted September 14, 2004 13:41     Click Here to See the Profile for ntnsnoopy   Click Here to Email ntnsnoopy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you! Thank you!

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markk
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posted September 14, 2004 14:23     Click Here to See the Profile for markk   Click Here to Email markk     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yikes!

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MrGemini
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posted September 14, 2004 17:23     Click Here to See the Profile for MrGemini   Click Here to Email MrGemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey snoop, I hope your serious about learning and not just taking advantage of some poor Tech. who left his buttset behind!

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Gene
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posted September 14, 2004 17:38     Click Here to See the Profile for Gene   Click Here to Email Gene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like snoop could use some cable stretchers,and some Dial Tone spray for his Butt set All the dial tone has probably dried up

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walterv
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posted September 14, 2004 18:08     Click Here to See the Profile for walterv   Click Here to Email walterv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Little food for thought....

When you have someone ask a question like this... the light bulb should at least flicker in your mind...

Here is another computer guy that is going to undercut our prices and steal our customers... or even worse it is a end user that is going to do the same....

when someone asks a question like that ... we should not even respond.... it is taking food away from ourselves to support someone like this....

That is the problem with this forum...

My 2c........

Walter

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justbill
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posted September 14, 2004 21:16     Click Here to See the Profile for justbill   Click Here to Email justbill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think y'all maybe over reacting a little. No matter who this is the question should tell you they are no threat to your profession. This forum is only as good or bad as the forum members. I think everyone does a pretty good job of policing each other.
Bill

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Bigkayeh
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posted September 14, 2004 21:26     Click Here to See the Profile for Bigkayeh   Click Here to Email Bigkayeh     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree with Bill. When he goes off hook on the wrong circuit he will find a great appreciation for the tech who has to bail him out. And if he learns a little then whats the harm. We all started somewhere.

Kerry

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Z-man
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posted September 14, 2004 22:55     Click Here to See the Profile for Z-man   Click Here to Email Z-man     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Walt, if you think this is bad, you should check out TT. They get em all there.

Snoop, just remember this. If you are learning how to use this to save some money, a service call from a tech is far less expensive than a shorted out T-1 card or IA router.

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dtmf
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posted September 15, 2004 06:03     Click Here to See the Profile for dtmf   Click Here to Email dtmf     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
walterv,
How can you possibly be threatened by that question, if the person doesn't even know how to use a butt set how can they be a threat to anyone?

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ntnsnoopy
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posted September 15, 2004 06:08     Click Here to See the Profile for ntnsnoopy   Click Here to Email ntnsnoopy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry for the trouble this caused. I am not out to steal a job nor to save money. This is all a learning experience for me. I've done a little phone work for the last 12 years that I've been in I.T. Yes, I.T. is my main profession but along the way, I do run into a few phone tasks. I know very little like how to punch down lines, tracing phone numbers on a binding post, and some switch work.

Currently, I have a daunting task of tracing binding posts right now and rather than punching down wires and connecting a phone to it, I found out that using the butt set is much easier.

I have all the respect for all of the telecom workers. I think the work you all do is commendable and without you guys, life would be miserable. I do like to learn and this is exactly what I'm doing. Yes, I probably could've contacted the phone company to do this and get a hard copy but there's always a learning experience when I do things myself.

I hope I can continue to use this board. I definitely like the reading. It's a great source.

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justbill
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posted September 15, 2004 08:03     Click Here to See the Profile for justbill   Click Here to Email justbill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There are some very knowledgeable people on this board, even they have to ask a question now and then. None of us started knowing how to do the work. Welcome to the board.
Bill

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walterv
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posted September 15, 2004 08:14     Click Here to See the Profile for walterv   Click Here to Email walterv     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by justbill:
I think y'all maybe over reacting a little. No matter who this is the question should tell you they are no threat to your profession. This forum is only as good or bad as the forum members. I think everyone does a pretty good job of policing each other.
Bill

Bill yup your correct just a bad day yesterday..Had a customer try to save money and used a guy that new nothing about the system and screwed it all up.... and the of course they want us to come fix it right away...
with my jammed up schedule it just ceates a scheduling problem.

PS. No disrespect was intended to the person who posted the original post.

Walter

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junkman
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posted September 15, 2004 20:05     Click Here to See the Profile for junkman   Click Here to Email junkman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Snoop, you're not alone. I've been in IT for many years, have done some phone work for a few more years, and finally made the switch from IT to phones about 2 years ago. The 2 best ways to learn are (1) ask the guys that have been doing it longer than you have and (2) RTFM.

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justbill
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posted September 15, 2004 20:50     Click Here to See the Profile for justbill   Click Here to Email justbill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Walterv,
Wish I had a scheduling problem. Out here in the sticks I get a lot of days off, really a nice change from the hectic days at AT&T. Sooo, when am I going to see my area in "Request an Installer"? Work for food and a brew!
Bill

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justbill
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posted September 21, 2004 21:37     Click Here to See the Profile for justbill   Click Here to Email justbill     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Man, you guys are tuff. OK no food, but that's it, no further negotiations!

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bits4pcs
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posted September 22, 2004 12:35     Click Here to See the Profile for bits4pcs     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just a note!
most other industries have been influenced by the IT market. And installers
are finding that they have to learn more software and proggraming from computers/laptops, voice mail systems are arriving on just computers so the more IT proffesionals and Computer Engineers that are on this Bulletin board the better.
For technical questions And general help

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