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PMetalDude41 Member Posts: 1 |
posted July 23, 2004 01:45
   
does anyone have a wiring diagram, (one that shows what wires to connect to what screws on the inside) to this phone. [img[http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v334/PMetalDude41/pics/9d85add5.jpg[/img] It has 6 buttons on the bottom they read: HOLD, 1, 2, 3, Comm Line, Buzz.  And on the reciever handle it says: bell system property do not sell. Here is some pics of the insides:    Thanks IP: Logged |
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ntcp Installer Posts: 86 |
posted July 23, 2004 05:26
For 1A2 documentation see: www.quick-manuals.com [This message has been edited by SSPhone (edited July 23, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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BIGDOG3c Moderator Posts: 524 |
posted July 23, 2004 07:16
MEMORIES!!! IP: Logged |
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justbill Installer Posts: 370 |
posted July 23, 2004 07:38
Won't do you any good unless you have the Key system too. If all you want is dial tone the first line is the w/bl second is w/br. It's 3 pair per line if you have the system so w/b, w/or, wh/gr 1st line, tr, a1 a, and l lg respectively, with y/sl as the common ringer lead. IP: Logged |
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SSPhone Moderator Posts: 1364 |
posted July 23, 2004 15:24
Bill Your showing you age  IP: Logged |
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justbill Installer Posts: 370 |
posted July 23, 2004 16:27
That's why I only answer the questions on older equipment, it's what I know. I depend on y'all for the answers on the new stuff. I enjoy working on the new equipment, but when you had to follow a schematic with lines so close you could hardly tell them apart to see which contact on what relay was failing and not trying to belittle anyone, those were real techs. Yep I'm old, but sure beats the alternative! Bill IP: Logged |
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jwooten Moderator Posts: 587 |
posted July 23, 2004 16:41
It's a rotary dial. Flyball governors, eek! IP: Logged |
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jjimm Installer Posts: 187 |
posted July 24, 2004 19:35
The first row had the O-W for the first A1 (ground)lead, common through the rest of the set (looks like a 565) The other A1 ground leads were spares. I sure miss these phones we could FIX! Nowadays, you just toss 'em. And the busy lamp diodes, and "strapping" the cap for matrix ringing, and, and...I can't remember... IP: Logged |
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justbill Installer Posts: 370 |
posted July 24, 2004 21:08
OK jjimm, Since you're at least as old as I am. Wasn't the control lead only common on 10 button and larger? I think the 6 button used both A1 and A..could be wrong, memories the second thing to go. Bill IP: Logged |
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jjimm Installer Posts: 187 |
posted July 24, 2004 23:51
You're absolutely right, Bill! See what happens when an old guy tries to show off? It was the 10& 20 btn sets that used the "spare" A1 leads from lines 2-5 for the the A leads for lines 6-9 . The 6 btn sets had the A1 leads terminated on the screws in the set.I guess mine had a "loose screw". I still CAN see clear enough to notice the 5th button probably also had a screw loose,inside the 5th button so it wouldn't lock, so it could be used as a buzzer. Cool! Buttons and buzzers-in series! (blah-blah) Seriously, what Seriously, what PMetalDude41 needs is the REAL thing- authentic Bell System books-Key Systems Books 1-2-3 . The ones that say- "Bell system property do not sell." IP: Logged |
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justbill Installer Posts: 370 |
posted July 25, 2004 07:15
Have a set, in a box, somewhere. Wouldn't part with them. Have all the old Data books also. Call Director with busy lamp field, button and buzzers, no wonder us phone guys were know as "hard drinkers". Bill IP: Logged |
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txfoneman Installer Posts: 246 |
posted July 25, 2004 19:56
i have a black tape container full of lamps & fuses! wow! IP: Logged |
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smddoc Member Posts: 23 |
posted August 03, 2004 10:24
I think I've seen those wiring diagrams chissled on stone tablets some where. 
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jjimm Installer Posts: 187 |
posted August 03, 2004 12:15
Those tablets are somewhere in my basement. IP: Logged |
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txfoneman Installer Posts: 246 |
posted August 03, 2004 15:37
are you still looking???? IP: Logged |
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justbill Installer Posts: 370 |
posted August 03, 2004 16:35
I've got the original chisel. IP: Logged |
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jjimm Installer Posts: 187 |
posted August 03, 2004 18:54
Are you sure that's not an old punch down ? IP: Logged |
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justbill Installer Posts: 370 |
posted August 03, 2004 21:02
Ya mean before the spring thingie? jjimm we're showing our age. 1A2..how about 1A1? Bill IP: Logged |
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brokeda Installer Posts: 189 |
posted August 03, 2004 22:31
My 2 dogs Tip and Ring ate all of my 1A2 manuals, sorry. And yes, it was so much fun to work all weekend, drinking Coors, punching down 25 -50 and 100 pair cables, wiring BLF phones and diode matrix ringing, or how bout those wonderful Talback intercoms, high tech in 83!! IP: Logged |
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jjimm Installer Posts: 187 |
posted August 04, 2004 11:01
I learned from an old telephone pro who showed me a wire-wrapped, cross bar switch . You could trace the circuit across the room as the relays closed with a "clack" noise. THAT'S old! Learning "make and break" circuits made learning and understanding 1A2 simple. Now we're swimming in VOIP! It's funny to look at old sets and people can't remember what they are-like this "brick-like 5 button set" - IP: Logged |
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txfoneman Installer Posts: 246 |
posted August 08, 2004 20:19
6A intercom systems, anyone????!?!?! damn i'm getting old! IP: Logged |
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justbill Installer Posts: 370 |
posted August 09, 2004 06:56
jjimm, X-bar? How about the old step switches, and polar relays, how I loved them, of course, 1A1. txfoneman, we had one of those mounted on a wall!! When we took it down took 3 men and a fork lift. Bill Just wanted to add, the worst sound in the old offices, X-bar, step was silence. [This message has been edited by justbill (edited August 09, 2004).] IP: Logged |
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sidetone Member Posts: 14 |
posted August 11, 2004 18:02
Hey Guys, I am a telecom student about to enter my 2nd year of a 2- year program. I thought you might find it interesting that at my school, we still do about 2 weeks of lab work on the 1A2 keysystems. We have copies of the schematics, are expected to know & understand them, and are given a 3-line system to "install" and configure for various situations. Our instructors feel that we should have a knowledge base that includes everything from legacy to modern equipment. I loved working on these old systems, and some fellow classmates even fixed some internal wiring problems with their systems. My teacher did have 1 main instruction: Don't mess with the wirewraps in the back....or die...lol! Those wirewraps looked mighty impressive! IP: Logged |
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Rudy Installer Posts: 84 |
posted August 15, 2004 16:10
The way some of you are talking , I ll bet some of you might remember the old 756 & 770 PBXs talk about "make & break" IP: Logged |
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justbill Installer Posts: 370 |
posted August 15, 2004 19:45
Or the hotel motel version HM60...yep worked on those too. Huge schematic drawings you had to trace out to find troubles. Bill IP: Logged |
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jjimm Installer Posts: 187 |
posted August 15, 2004 20:03
There was a 770 at the old Ferry Building (now called the SF World Trade Center) in San Francisco, which was one of the working models for the schematics I learned on. It was good to learn the concepts, which can be applied to today's technology, still. IP: Logged |
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